Monday, May 26, 2014

Bitter Bob: More Proof That I am A Prophet



Bitter Bob is apparently having an identity crisis.  He is desperately trying to "prove" he is a prophet. Everything he does has some miraculous scriptural meaning to it.

Bitter Bob say that when he told LCG where to stick it with the job they offered him, he did so on faith.  Scriptures proves this is what he had to do....and you are supposed to accept it blindly and without any prejudice whatsoever.

When I told LCG I would not be back on 12/28/12, I did so without having lined up groups to support me.  Would not a prophet truly walk by faith and not by sight (cf. 2 Corinthians 5:7?  That is what what happened and believe that this should be considered as another proper fruit.

Bitter Bob is also attempting to let us know he does NOT take a salary from the improperly named Continuing Church of God.  That would be pretty hard considering the overwhelming majority of his listeners do NOT send him any money.  What ever is left over he wants you to believe that is 100% funneled into his outreach.  Not one single dime goes to Bitter Bob or any member of his family.  If Bitter Bob expects us all to believe that he has never taken a dime for his own benefit or his family's then I have a campus in Pasadena I could sell him.....

Next Bob starts taking about himself and has to drag in Rod Meredith yet again

The Apostle Paul admonished Christians to pray for the gift of prophecy in 1 Corinthians 14:1-5.  For decades, I obeyed that biblical admonition.  On October 3, 2008, Dr. Meredith (Presiding Evangelist of the Living Church of God) called me and said to me, “God may consider you to be a prophet.” Notice that this came from a long-time evangelist and did not first come out from me. It was Dr. Meredith who first brought up the topic about Bob Thiel being a prophet. I had never mentioned my prayers related to this prior to that telephone conversation, and when I did then, he concurred that I had been doing what the Bible said to do.

Bitter Bob then dropped to his knees and started praying deep prayers.  He expected God to make him a  prophet.  Then Gaylyn Bonjour had to stupidly open his mouth and doubly bless Bitter Bob.  Bitter Bob then tells us that if we do not believe he prayed for this happen then we are not willing to let God do his work in Bitter Bob.

Furthermore, although at least two LCG ministers told me that I did not need to have hands laid upon me to be a prophet, I was not convinced.  So, I prayed that if I was a prophet that God would arrange something to happen in Charlotte, NC on a trip I was going to make there in mid-December 2011.  God answered that prayer in a manner that I did not expect when LCG minister Gaylyn Bonjour anointed me and unexpectedly prayed that God would grant me a double-portion of His Spirit (cf. 2 Kings 2:9-13).  Later that day, LCG’s top three evangelists told me that they would correct the issues that I had been bringing up to them for years (some in accordance with Matthew 18:15-18).  Yet, they did not resolve matters when they said that they would.  What kind of fruits were they displaying?
Do you believe that answered prayer can be the fruit of a prophet?  If not, then consider that you might not be willing to understand how God often works.
Next the Bitter man says that all prophets have dreams and that he had a dream, several in fact, and they ALL came true!  Not only does he "dream prophetic dreams" he also has a 100% accurate prophecy rate.

The Bible says that prophets will sometimes be given a dream by God (Numbers 12:6).  And I had a dream that was confirmed.  So did another who also became part of CCOG.  Also, there was a third dream from another who became part of CCOG in 2014 that I expect to report about as well.

As far as prophetic fruits, I have made hundreds of prophetic statements and explanations that have been confirmed by subsequent events. 
Bitter Bob has 33 confirmed prophetic utterances that have come true.  Is Bitter Bob now wearing his 33rd Degree Masonic ring?  Or is he trying to sound like Jesus who died when he was 33? Nothing is off the table when it comes to Bitter bob!

There were also at least 33 associated with my book 2012 and the Rise of the Secret Sect
 Bitter Bob then gets in another dig at LCG for ignoring his prophetic status.  He is placing himself as an equal to martyr Stephen and that current COGs will reject him particularly when it comes to Rod Meredith.

Those in Jesus’ day expected something other than Jesus.  Jesus (Matthew 23:29-35; Luke 11:49-50) and the martyr Stephen (Acts 7:52) made it clear that people who thought that they were God’s people repeatedly have not accepted God’s prophets–even though they thought that they would (Matthew 23:30).

The fact that I have correctly explained various aspects of end time prophecy that LCG originally agreed with me on but changed  is another prophetic fruit.

Bitter Bob feels rejected by soooooooooooooooooooo many in he COG and it clearly annoys him.  He has to equate his rejection with the rejection HWA received.  Since Bitter Bob is an equal to HWA it all must be true!

Notice something from the late Herbert W. Armstrong:

PERSECUTORS HAVE CALLED me a “false prophet.” Now how would you KNOW whether the accusation IS true- or false?…

Actually, it probably is not very important to you to know whether my persecutors are right or wrong, when they call me dirty names, hurl epithets, resort to innuendo, impute sinister motives, strive to discredit, attempt character assassination. What is important to YOU is whether what you read in The PLAIN TRUTH really is the truth – whether what you hear over The WORLD TOMORROW broadcast is true- not whether I , as an individual, am true or false.

Sunday, May 25, 2014

Bitter Bob: Is He Now Pretending to Be Sinless Bob?


Bitter Bob writes today that he has never been "convicted" of sin.  I guess we need to start calling him Sinless Bitter Bob now.

Sinless Bitter Bob preaches no biblical heresies.  He has made and will NEVER make any false prophecies like all the other impotent weaklings in the various COG's do:

The fruits are there.  And those fruits are there WITHOUT THE DOCTRINAL HERESIES AND FALSE PROPHETIC PRONOUNCEMENTS OF OTHER COG GROUPS.

If I had been willing to compromise doctrinally while in LCG, I could have accepted a salary I was offered by Dr. Meredith on at least two occasions (it was not specifically predicated upon me being willing to compromise, it is just that I felt that unacceptable compromise would have been required if I was an employee of LCG).  I did neither.
In terms of character issues, notice something that Jesus taught:
45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me.  46 Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me?  47 He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.  (John 8:45-47)

Yet again, Sinless Bitter Bob lashes out at Rod Meredith tying to prove he has not sinned any major sin.  Its all Rods fault that Bitter Bob had to start another splinter personality cult.
No one ever “convicted me” of sin in that type of context.  Instead, like David was falsely accused of pride by an envious brother (1 Samuel 17:28), I, too, was on 12/28/14 in a letter from Dr. Meredith, and like David, I denied it (cf. 1 Samuel 17:29; Roderick C. Meredith’s Accusatory Letter to Bob Thiel).  It should be noted that in violation of Matthew 18:15-17, Dr. Meredith made that accusation publicly despite the fact that neither Dr. Meredith nor my local minister had EVER raised that subject with me or made that accusation.  Which of us had the proper fruits?  The one who tried to comply with Matthew 18:15-18 or the one who did not feel he was subject to those scriptures?

Bitter Bob, the Elijah Wannabe, Lashes Out at LCG AGAIN Complaining That Meredith Refused To Acknowledge Him As A Prophet As He Prepares To Call Himself Elijah



Bitter Bob is taking a lot of heat lately from this blog and from inside the Living Church  of God.  People seem to be working overtime in discrediting Bitter Bob's so called ministry.  His anger and frustration at being scorned by his wannabe daddy is taking a toll on him.  He lashes out today, Sunday May 25, 2014:
The Apostle Paul makes it clear that not all prophets. Prophet is an office and prophets are to prophesy.  LCG’s position is that it has NO prophets (which is likely the case as I stopped attending late on 12/28/12).

But it should be noted that its top leader had repeatedly taught in the past that God may consider Bob Thiel to be a prophet

Bitter Bob continues:

Dexter Wakefield continued with:
“Prophets” in the sense of Elijah are rare,
True.  But rare does not mean that there are not and cannot be any.  Now while Dexter Wakefield did not make that error, many have concluded that rare means none.  The New Testament is clear that God has prophets who prophesy (1 Corinthians 12:28-30) and will do so in the last days (Acts 2:17-18).  Those in LCG and all other COGs need to realize this.

Yes, every single COG out there, but especially the Living Church of God MUST acknowledge that Bitter Bob Thiel is a PROPHET!   I mean really!  How could Rod Meredith be so wrong about this??????????????

Is Bitter Bob setting himself up to be Elijah?  The length Bitter Bob goes to in order to legitimize himself is getting more ridiculous by the day.

LCG has taught that Elijah will either be a man younger than its Roderick C. Meredith (Meredith, Roderick C. The Elijah Question. VTE 131, May 19, 2001) or that the Elijah is not a person but an “Elijah-type work” fulfills the Elijah prophesies in Matthew 17:10-11 and Malachi 4:4-6 (Winnail D. The Mission of the Church. Living Church News, March-April 2006, p. 7).  The ‘Elijah’ will be a person.

As far as rarity goes, I would ask, “How many people were told by an actual top evangelist in the Church of God  that God may consider him to be a prophet?”  In the 20th and 21st centuries, there is only one who comes to mind (details are in the article How To Determine If Someone is a True Prophet of God).  So, while prophets are “rare,” and being told one is a prophet by an ordained evangelist is also rare, rarity does not mean that there are none.

As far as “Elijah” goes, he is to “restore all things” (Matthew 17:11).

Bitter Bob lashes out again at Meredith for ignoring him:

The truth about early and apostolic Christians is that it is PROVABLY NOT IN LCG AND IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT than Dr. Meredith realizes When I was in LCG in 2011, I was trying to help them restore much of it; Dr. Meredith agreed, but then failed to keep his word. Dr. Meredith’s failure to keep his word on that and other matters was a major reason that the Continuing Church of God had to form.

As a new prophet and soon coming Elijah these are his qualifications, according to himself:

Would fruits of a real converted prophet include any of the following?
  1. Standing up against teaching wrong materials about Church of God history, some of which perpetuate Catholic myths? 
  2. Standing up against publishing “Fundamental Beliefs” that are in error and opposed to scripture? 
  3. Standing up against prophetic errors that are opposed to the Bible? 
  4. Boldly proclaiming the truth to the world as a witness? See Isaiah 58:1 and Matthew 24:14.
  5. Praying for decades for the gift of prophecy (1 Corinthians 14:1-5) and then unexpectedly being anointed for a double-portion of God’s spirit (cf. 2 Kings 2:9-13).
Doing all of the above, as well as standing up against violent sports, made me unpopular in certain LCG circles.  Because of that, improper statements were published about me  Jesus taught:
11 “Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake.  12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.  (Matthew 5:11-12)
Contrary to scripture I was publicly and wrongly attacked in September 2012.  Despite that I endured that and continued to try to work with LCG evangelists, ministers, and Council members.  Despite this, I again was publicly and wrongly attacked (see Roderick C. Meredith’s Accusatory Letter to Bob Thiel) contrary to the Bible (Acts 23:5; Matthew 18:15-17; Galatians 6:1).

Bitter Overseer Bob: I Will Soon Be Reaching BILLIONS With My Message, Yet None of Them Send Me Money! Stop Ignoring Me!!!!!



Bitter Bob has a new letter out to his tiny little flock.  Apparently some of his members have been questioning his constant reminders of topics that COG members are supposed to know.  Bitter Bob also admits he is suffering financially from lack of contributions.

Bitter Bob is being deceptive to his members with the following comments.  He wants them to think he has hundreds of thousands of interested non-COG people clamoring all over his words.  Many of Bitter Bob's visitors are one shot wonders.  They come to him from various "Examiner" articles, his writings on Fatima and other Catholic topics, and prophecy.  He draws Catholics for the first few paragraphs and then loses them when they see how anti-Catholic he is.  His "Examiner" articles take various news items and then twists into perverted prophecy comparisons or Mayan drivel.  Again, these are all one hit wonders.  He is right about one thing though.  Many of his visitors are not COG members.  They are ex members that visit from links on this site.  Bitter Bob needs to thanks us for his increases in hits periodically!

But, I would like to comment that, as you all have probably noticed, in the sermons I make statements which suggest that I am often speaking to an audience that is NOT part of the Continuing Church of God.  A main reason why I do so is that the majority of those who watch our sermons are not part of CCOG.
Bitter Bob next admits his listeners are NOT sending in money to him.  A "great majority" of his listeners do not send him money.  His African contacts he has been all a twitter over and not money producing either. They know a cash cow when they see one.  Most of the people in Thiel's group in Africa have jumped from one COG to the next.  Who ever has the fullest purse gains their loyalty.
And this is true even of our offertory messages.  The great majority of those who watch the Holy Day offering videos do not provide any offering.  So, when I make statements in sermons that you figure that everyone in CCOG should know, please understand that most who will watch the sermons are not part of CCOG and many have never been part of any Church of God group.
A few paragraphs later he writes this absurd statement:

Finally received a report from Google related to April 2014 results.  Between our small Google ad program as well as our multiple websites, we reached over 2,000,000 computers in April 2014.  While we always wish to reach more, we are reaching millions.  The time will come when the number will reach closer to one or more billions as we get closer to the end time.
If little tiny Bitter Bob can garner 2,000,000 hits a month, then what does that say about Meredith and Pack?  They have far more money and reach far more people.   If they cannot reach BILLIONS already why does Bitter Bob feel HE and HE ALONE will be doing a far greater outreach?  Talk about delusional!

Then Bitter Bob lets slip a few more lines of information that lets the world know he is hurting financially.

Due to his COG personality cult start-up he has had to stop taking in "patients" for his homeopathic snake oil sales.  That has cut his income also.  Add to that they humongous lack of tithes and offerings coming in, things are getting rough in Arroyo Grande.

You would think that with such an earth girdling ministry that his reaching millions and millions of people each month that he could at least afford high speed Internet at his Church HQ home. He admits he even has trouble streaming his own videos because he has no high speed Internet.

Things are so bad with the Bitter Overseer that he may not be able to print his his next letter and mail it.

Paper, Envelopes and stamps cost money brethren!  Send it in or I will NOT mail you my earth shattering letters!

If your internet connection is still too slow (as my home one is) and/or you prefer audio messages to audio-visuals ones, go to the YouTube link for the message, click on SHOW MORE related to the description.

Like the Apostle Paul, we are not particularly entertaining speakers, but do try to declare the testimony of God to our people and those in the world.

Note:  There is a small chance that next week,  this letter will not be emailed to those who have requested it.  If you do not receive it by Friday, May 30, 2014, there should be a version available at the Letters to the Brethren link at the CCOG.org website.
Rod Meredith must be having a field day!