Saturday, April 11, 2015

Imprisoned Church of God Felon Claims He Is The Only True Apostle...Unlike the False Apostles Bob Thiel, Gerald Flurry and Dave Pack



The Church of God's favorite imprisoned felon is back sharing his incredible message to the world.

Sent to prison by a wise Judge for a biblical sentence of 3 1/2 years, Ron Weinland is now heading into his final one year countdown to probation. Its been a hard road for the last 2 1/2 years sharing his prison cell with Bubba.  The only apostle of the Church of God in this age and number one of the two witless witnesses will never look at the second witness Laura the same after this.

For the past 2 1/2 years Weinerdude has been sitting in his cell dreaming up end time scenarios attempting to prove why he and Laura are the two witless witnesses, prophets and revelator of God's words.  His small flock has lost countless members over the last couple of years because of his prison sentence and out outrageous behavior of his co-conspirator wife Laura and money laundering Audra.

Since Weinerdude is in prison cell he has to look at himself from the outside in.  He is such a magnificent apostle that he has to speak about himself in the third person.

Weinerdude writes:

Ronald Weinland, an author whose books have gone into over 170 countries in 7 languages, is first and foremost an apostle to the One Almighty Eternal God. Preceded by Herbert W. Armstrong who led the Worldwide Church of God, Ronald Weinland is an apostle in a long lineage of God’s apostles, beginning with the original 12 who began their work in 31 AD, long before others emerged falsely calling themselves Christian.

Ronald Weinland is the last apostle in this final age of man’s self-rule. That self-rule will end with the second coming of Jesus Christ who returns to put an end to WW III and bring peace to this earth – peace which mankind has been unable to achieve for 6,000 years. He came the first time, nearly 2,000 years ago, as God’s Passover Lamb who made possible the forgiveness of sins for mankind. This time, he is coming as a “Lion” with great supernatural power to chasten, battle, and conquer those who are destroying the earth. Jesus Christ will then establish a one-world government under his reign – in peace – for the next 1,000 years.
Like Paul and most of the other apostles, Weinerdude is in prison for his beliefs.  Please be assured it is for his beliefs and not the fact that he and his crooked family spent tithe money for their own personal pleasures like furs, diamonds, BMW's, trips to Vegas and Europe and transferring large sums to Swiss bank accounts.


 Historical accounts have some variance, but it is believed that most all of the original apostles, including Paul who was the apostle to the gentiles, were imprisoned and eventually killed. The last apostle to write scripture was John, who was also a prophet, and while imprisoned by the government of his time on the Isle of Patmos, he had revealed to him the Book of Revelation, which he then wrote. Ronald Weinland is the only other apostle who has also been made a prophet by God and Jesus Christ.
Next Weinerdude makes another bold claim.  His god personally made an apostle in 1997.  Its amazing how many weird men in the Church of God made themselves important in the 1996-1998 time period.

Since the days of John, nearly 1,900 years ago, God’s true Church has not been accustomed to having a prophet, but God made Ronald Weinland a prophet in 1997. 
Weinerdude is such a magnificent spokesmen for his god that it was all prophesied in the Bible that many of his followers would leave and mock him.

Ronald Weinland is the last apostle to be sent to this world, and as such, God has established through him a final testimony (witness) of mankind’s true attitude and spirit toward God Himself. This has been made manifest (revealed) through “the many” who have turned in bitterness, hatred, disgust, mockery, ridicule, and slander toward the one whom God has sent.
Poor Ronnie!  He is picked on and maligned.  Poor thing.

Ever the martyr, Weinerdude has to declare how horrible his persecution is.
Much of mankind’s true attitude has also been revealed through Ronald Weinland’s trial and imprisonment by the government of the United States. He began serving his sentence in February of 2013, with a release date in February of 2016. God has established the true spirit of mankind through the ages by how his prophets and apostles have been treated, with so many of them being imprisoned and even many killed.

There is not a single Church of God minister alive to this day who has suffered any persecution.  Every single one of them live lives surrounded in luxury and excess.  Building mini-empires, colleges and auditoriums have been a colossal waste of time.  As these men bluster and bloviate on their magnificence, their members are leaving in untold numbers.  Every single one gets up and lies that their "work" is growing as never before.  All they do is gain church-hoppers moving from once splinter group to the next every time they get pissed off about something.

All Weinerdude is going to do in one years time is get out of his love-nest and start committing the same crimes again. He has not learned a single thing while in prison.

It's Pretend to be Jewish Day...




Its Saturday and in Church of God land it's "Let's pretend to be Jewish day." People's Facebook pages are filled with the above meme's on a regular basis when Friday night/Saturday rolls around.  Most of these come from United Church of God folk.  RCG and PCG sheeple don't send this kind of stuff out since using the internet is Satanic, unless of course you are RCG/PCG leaders.....but that's another story.

Ex-church members get tired of the hypocrisy when they see that meme and are now posting this one:


Its one thing to keep a day as "sabbath" to rest and recuperate, but the Church of God has attached so much baggage to the day that it is not a day of rejuvenation.  Being forced to do something does not make it right.

Thursday, April 9, 2015

Our God Is Going To Be Kicking Ass And Taking Names!





Guest  posting:

Our God is going to be kicking ass and taking names!

"Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle...And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth." --Zechariah 14:3, 12

"And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war...And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh." --Revelation 19:11, 21

"What a DIVINE RETRIBUTION against armies that will fight against Christ! What a demonstration of the Divine Power with which the glorified Christ will rule all nations! REBELLION against God's LAW and God's RULE must, and speedily will be put down!" --The Wonderful World Tomorrow: What It Will Be Like by Herbert W. and Garner Ted Armstrong (1973)

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works...And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." --Revelation 20:12, 15

Those who are familiar with the Armstrong Church of God culture can probably remember a sermon or two where the speaker would work himself up almost to the point of orgasm describing just how horrible God's wrath was going to be when Christ returned to this earth. There was a gleam in their eyes as they described God's justice, and how wicked mankind will finally get his just deserts. I remember Herbert Armstrong thundering from his desk: "This world is rotten, it's corrupt, it's damnable; and it's going to go!" Wiped out by Divine retribution. Of course, all of this was based on a very literal interpretation of the prophecies being quoted. There could be no doubt that God intended a real blood bath, and it was absolutely certain that it was going to happen in the near future.

For the sake of argument, let's say they were right about that literal interpretation of these passages. They were still wrong! It is now clear to me that they made the same mistake that the prophet Jonah made (along with many others). They had their own notions about fairness - about what was just and what was not just. However, unlike Jonah, they projected their own anger and thirst for vengeance onto God. Jonah ran away from his assignment to prophesy against Nineveh; because he knew that God was gracious, merciful, slow to anger and prone to great kindness. (Jonah 4:2) In other words, he knew that God wouldn't do all of the horrible things which he had prophesied against the citizens of Nineveh if they repented of their sins. In modern language, "God doesn't have enough backbone - He's too soft on these sinners - He's too quick to forgive - Kill them God! Give those miserable b-st-rds what they deserve!"

Hmmm, maybe it's a very good thing that "His" thoughts are not our thoughts, and "His" ways are not our ways. (Isaiah 55:8) What do you think? God Cannot Be Contained blog 

Doubly Blessed Apostle Says CA Drought Happening Because of Gay Marriage



The resident idiot of the Church of God and one of its Chief Pharisees is back blathering on how the gays are causing the drought in California.

Chief Overseer, Prophet, Apostle, Mayan authority, world renown authority on prophecy, and Living Church of God apostate, Bob Thiel declares that the current drought that California is facing might be caused by all those happy gays wanting to get married.

The Doubly Blessed Prophet uses as his source World News Daily....


Drought and weather issues: Any relationship to the homosexual agenda?

 “Should the court require the states and the people to ‘ritualize’ sodomite behavior by government issuance of a state marriage license, it could bring God’s judgment on the nation,” the brief warns. “Holy Scripture attests that homosexual behavior and other sexual perversions violate the law of the land, and when the land is ‘defiled,’ the people have been cast out of their homes.” WND

The homosexual agenda has a cost.  I believe that the USA is experiencing part of that cost now. That is why I put the California weather item and the homosexual warning article next to each other.
Does that mean it is not possible for the drought to end?

No, but I do believe that the acceptance of the homosexual agenda affects weather as that is taught in the Bible.
Partially because of events leading up to ‘the time of Jacob’s trouble’ (Jeremiah 30:7), many events will hit the USA and its Anglo-Saxon descended allies harder than they have.  The odd weather patterns we have seen may well be part of the ‘beginning of sorrows’ and ‘troubles’ Jesus spoke of in Mark 13:8.
Apparently all the fornicators, adulterers, drug addicts, pork eaters, mixed fabric wearers, shrimp aficionado's and alcoholics in the Church of God are not part of the problem.  They get a free pass for the typical scape goat of the Armstrongites.

Since the Doubly Blessed Prophet quoted the dubious WND as a news source, perhaps he might check out this informative site:  Gay Marriage Chemtrails are Causing the California Drought

Living Church of God's Aristocracy and Bureaucratic Dysfunction



From a reader here regarding the letter from Darryl describing his experience at the hands of Living "University."



Darryl, you have witnessed and experienced life in an organization that has degenerated into cultic institutionalism, spawned by typical bureaucratic dysfunction mated with the peculiar COG aristocracy of the ministry. Many here will argue that it always has exhibited this characteristic, which may be true, but you can at least see that LCG has suffered increasing corruption since the Global Church of God days when Roderick C. Meredith wrote the booklet WhenShould You Follow Church Government?

Consider the following from Gene Getz in his book, Sharpening The Focus Of The Church (p. 252), which gives the following "symptoms" of institutionalism, (and in the case of LCG it is "cultic institutionalism" when combined with the pervasive theology of supreme apostolic authority held by the ministry):

1-- The organization (the form and structure) becomes more important than the people who make up the organization.

2-- Individuals begin to function in the organization more like cogs in a machine.

3-- Individuality and creativity are lost in the structural mass.

4-- The atmosphere in the organization becomes threatening rather than open and free; people are often afraid to ask uncomfortable questions.

5-- The structural arrangements in the organization have become rigid and inflexible.

6-- People are serving the organization more than the objectives for which the organization was brought into existence. In other words, means have become ends.

7-- Communication often breaks down, particularly because of a repressive atmosphere and lots of red tape.

8-- People become prisoners of their procedures. The "policy manual" and the "rule book" get bigger, and fresh ideas are few and far between.

9-- In order to survive in a cold structure, people develop their own special interests within the organization, creating competitive departments and divisions. The corporate objective gives way to a multitude of unrelated objectives which, inevitably, results in lack of unity in the organization as a whole.

10-- Morale degenerates and people lose their initiative; they become discouraged and often critical of the organization and of others in the organization--particularly its leaders.

11-- As the organization gets bigger and as time passes, the process of institutionalization often speeds up. A hierarchy of leadership develops, increasing the problems of communication from the top to the bottom and the bottom to the top. People toward the bottom, or even in the middle of the organizational structure, feel more and more as if they "really don't count" in the organization.7

When these symptoms are present cultic institutionalism has already "progressed" into its advanced stages.

Is Oklahoma Being Punished for Allowing the Philadelphia Church of God Cult in its Midst?



The area around the cult compound of Gerald Flurry in Edmond, Oklahoma continues to be rocked by earthquakes.  Is the state of Oklahoma being punished for allowing the evil of the PCG to exist in its midst?  Whats Flurry going to do if a big quake demolishes his mini-me imitation Ambassador Auditorium?  One can only dream....

From a reader:



Guthrie is just north of Edmond, OK

Oklahoma, United States has had  (M1.5 or greater)

  • 56 earthquakes in the past 7 days
  • 218 earthquakes in the past month
  • 1,752 earthquakes in the past year

Living Church of God: Black LCG Member Asks "...why are we as a people looked down upon as we are, and even in the church, why are we persecuted more than any other people in this world”



The stories continue to flow out of the Living Church of God daily on the abusive techniques the LCG is using against its members.

When will Rod Meredith, Richard Ames, Doug Winnail and others stand up and say we are sorry, we have been wrong and we want to correct our mistakes?  None of us here can ever imagine this happening.  Rod Meredith and crew instead are digging their heals in and blaming this site and others for the discontent of their members.  We have not caused the current crisis in the LCG. The members are coming to this blog and others because the LCG hierarchy will NOT listen to them without labeling them as heretics and kicking them out for bad attitudes.

Interestingly enough, the following letter was posted on James Malm's blog today.  It is about the racist polices of the Living Church of God towards African-American members.  Meredith continues to enforce the racist polices that he learned under Herbert Armstrong.  Those racist ideas came directly as a result of the abominable teaching of British-Israelism and its white superiority.

The Living Church of God cruelty kicked out several African-American LCG members over this very issue.  They brought forth their objections to it and out the door they went. 

The letter on Malm's blog states:

I attended lcg church for aproximately eight years. I am a black man who attended sabbath services faithfully. I would always follow along through the scriptures with whom ever the speaker would be, and in doing so, I would only study what had been taught by way of lituriture that he would refer you to. Mr. Roderick Meredith would sometimes start fist pounding saying things like: “check up on me, check out what we say in the pages of your own bible”; or things like “brethren, we must warn our peoples”. Sometimes shouting and fist pounding. And we (blacks) heard this so much that we started talking among ourselves saying; “now wait a minute! Where are we in the scriptures? Surely whites are not the only ones in the bible! But thats all they’d stress”. So after so much talking over time, I started praying and asking our Lord; “why are we as a people looked down upon as we are, and even in the church, why are we persecuted more than any other people in this world”? Once, a time while taveling home from a feast site; I had two passengers riding who were of Phillipian desent. Somehow the races became the topic of conversation, I was blown away when the back seat passenger said: “you see Kennie, you people are from Ham, and this is why you all are under the curse!” I was almost angry enough to pull off the highway and put her out of my vehicle, but Jesus would not have done so. But this is what was and is still taught at lcg, that white people are the true Israelite people; as HWA has stated that his grandmother is on the lineage of King David; the throne of David even now sits in Wales! I was wow’d when I heard all this jiberish from Doug Winnail. But, when I heard him at our congregation speak about marriage, I just really was done. To say things like, people should stay with their own kind is not God like. I fill that he was sent there just to relay that message to blacks, to stay with your own.

So I then refused to invite my eldest son and his family to the church because his wife is white. But after alot of talking and praying about these things, I started to search the scriptures for myself, and low and behold, the Lord directed me to places in the bible that I had never been before! Scriptures that Mr Meredith, Doug Winnail, Richard Ames, and a host other ministers constantly danced around or quickly skimmed over picking and choosing always in certain areas of the Bible to get their point across, but never, never, not even once out of eight long years did they even remotely touch on certain scriptures.

He then goes on to write about his own interpretation of how the 12 tribes were formed by skin color.  He falls into the same trap that Meredith is in.  If the kingdom truly is what Scripture says it is, then this is what it will be like:

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Gal. 3:28
In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him Acts 10:34-35

That also applies to race.  Caucasians are not superior to blacks, Caucasians are not superior to Latino's, Asians, Indians or anyone else.  Its irrelevant as to what a persons skin color is.  If the kingdom is about finally being at rest with God, then what significance does skin color have to do with it?  For Meredith, Armstrong, Craig White and others it is important that whites occupy all leadership  positions in the kingdom.  According to them every single "hero" in the Bible, every prophet, every apostle, and every true convert were white.